[Clfs-dev] Matching up CLFS snapshot versions with LFS/BLFS releases

[Kevin Buckley]

On 21 July 2017 at 01:28, William Harrington <kb0iic at berzerkula.org> wrote:

> Well for one LFS != CLFS. We have a different release schedule. Also, can
> count the active devs on half a hand.

My apologies William,

I was aware of your involvment in CLFS (and in *FS in general, come
to that) but just went with the three names I could see on the 1st page
of the book, although I had to go a long way back into the LFS lists
to find the addresses that failed to deliver so no great surprise !

Clearly the CLFS list would have been a better starting point.

I'm also aware that LFS != CLFS.

I still have an archived email from around 2008 or 09 where someone
was as pains to point that out !

I was kind of writing more in hope that anything else but I guess
the twain still have never met as yet.

> We are closer to LFS development as the book versions are concerned.
> Stable releases will not at all match LFS. They release multiple times a
> year. We release when the stars, planets and moons are all aligned.

I guess I'll pick the closest moon/planet/star then, and follow that!

>
>> 2) If I already have a 64-bit LFS/BLFS 8.0 system, can I just retro-fit
>>      the 32-bit libs (so as to give what I think is then a MultiLib
>> system)
>>      using the 64-bit (Chapter 6) toolchain ?
>>     Or do I have to go and build a MultiLib compiler in the "Chapter 5"
>>      stage

>
> You are probably using /lib /usr/lib for 32-bit, so you can continue with
> /lib /usr/lib and use /lib32 /usr/lib32 for your 32 bit components


I'm thinking that you meant to write

"You are probably using /lib /usr/lib for 64-bit, "

there, or else it doesn't quite hang together ?

> or move
> every library that is 64-bit to /lib64 /usr/lib64 and then update all of
> the pkg-config files and rebuild binutils with multilib and 64bit bfd
> support, gcc with multilib support, and then glibc.

> You can do all this in
> your running system. But this order: binutils with multilib capability and
> 64bit bfd, GCC with multilib support, then GLIBC, and then GCC.

OK. This sounds promising.

Having said that, we have a NetBSD/PkgSrc Dom0 box here at work
and it's not clear that the Xen there were any 32-bit bits during the build.
although I need to check on that because we're not sure.

> You will have to decide what layout you want. Can refer to this for help:
> https://www.williamfeely.info/wiki/Lfs-multilib/blfs  uses lib32 for
> 32bit. if ya going to use lib for 32-bit and lib64 for 64-bit then refer
> to CLFS.
>
> I'd most likely go the lib32 route for your 32-bit components.

Thanks for the feedback.

As to Roger's

> I think it would be great if someone created a hint on exactly how to
> do this. I would like to know how to build wine on a BLFS 64-bit
> system.

I'll make sure I post my notes once I have things working.

I have a set of XML sources for LFS/BLFS/CLFS now and can
build a rendered Boook from them, so the original plan (you may
possibly recall that I am a PkgUser builder) was to create a set of
extra sections that documented what I had done to get a Xen
environment up and running. and put it up somwhere.

Let's see where I can get to: cheers again for the info,
Kevin